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recap episode","episode_intro_guest":"Dan Bulger","episode_intro_company":"Progyny","episode_banner_section_intro_text":"This is Infertility is a bi-weekly podcast where we fuse narrative storytelling with experience and science to give you a new perspective on what it\u2019s really like to go through a family building journey. Each episode dives into the emotional, physical, and financial burdens carried by those who experience infertility on their path to parenthood. Be it IVF, IUI, egg freezing, surrogacy, adoption, etc., the path is never the same and it can be long, painful, and lonely. It\u2019s our mission to give those struggling a platform to be heard, a community connection, and an opportunity to raise awareness of the 1 in 6 who, for many reasons, struggle with infertility.","episode_page_title":"Episode 198: Season 7 Spotlight: How the Right Support Created Families and Advocates","episode_embed_code":"<iframe style=\"border: none;\" title=\"Embed Player\" src=\"https:\/\/play.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/34437800\/height\/128\/theme\/modern\/size\/standard\/thumbnail\/yes\/custom-color\/ffffff\/time-start\/00:00:00\/playlist-height\/200\/direction\/backward\/download\/yes\/stats-code\/landing198\/font-color\/040404\" width=\"100%\" height=\"128\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>","episode_details":"<span data-contrast=\"auto\">Season 7 of <\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">This is Infertility <\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">continued to venture into education, advocacy, personal stories, and notably, some new areas of women\u2019s health!<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">As we wrap up, we're shining a spotlight on two recurring themes that have defined this season: <\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">the power of support and the ripple effect of advocacy.<\/span><\/i>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">From their doctor\u2019s care or employer\u2019s benefits package to the unwavering encouragement of a partner or patient care advocate, we brought back a few episodes from this season that prove \u2014 no one\u2019s journey has to be a solo one.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">This episode isn\u2019t just a look back\u2014it\u2019s a reminder of the strength that comes from being supported and what it takes to advocate for yourself and others.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Guests: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Progyny members: Hanna Peters, Danielle Faith, Jennifer Osmond, and Lakia Holmes<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Host: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger, Progyny<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Listen to the episodes featured:<\/span><\/b>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"4\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-174\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Episode 174: Becoming a Single Parent by Choice: IVF + a Sperm Donor<\/span><\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"4\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-181\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Episode 181: #NIAW: A Path to Parenthood Turned into a Path to Purpose<\/span><\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"4\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"3\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-183\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Episode 183: Overcoming the Emotional Toll of Infertility<\/span><\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"4\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"4\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-189\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Episode 189: Teamwork Makes a Dream Work: How Jennifer\u2019s Village Made Parenthood Possible<\/span><\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">For more information, visit Progyny\u2019s Podcast page and <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.progyny.com\/education\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Progyny\u2019s Education page<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> for more resources. Be sure to follow us on Instagram, @ThisisInfertilityPodcast and use the #ThisisInfertility. Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at <\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\"><a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/a>.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">This episode is also a video! Watch it here:\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\nhttps:\/\/youtu.be\/beV4R0SLWIM\r\n\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Barriers to Family Building<\/b><\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Hanna Peters:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> You start getting in your head and you're like, well, maybe I should, maybe I should just relax and, you know, maybe I should put the calendar away, and maybe I should take Mucinex or whatever it is. Then when you try those things that your friends who easily get pregnant tell you to do, and it doesn't work, it's just another little chipping away at the disappointment when you get the negative pregnancy test.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Danielle Faith:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> Something inside of me that was like, <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">you're gonna have to go through like real treatment in order to get pregnant. And you know, me and my husband had been together for 10 plus years at this point, and it was like, I haven't gotten pregnant yet. And so I went back to my OB, and I was like, what can you do for me? And her response was that I had to prove that I was trying for over a year before she would give me any type of medication or help me do any testing. And I didn't want to take that for an answer.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Lakia Homes:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> You have to change, in some ways, how you approach dating. And so, my approach after hearing the IVF news was that I have to date with intention and just kind of let them know - it's a conversation that needs to happen, because not everyone is kind of prepared for that.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Stronger with Support Systems<\/b><\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Supportive doctors:<\/span><\/b>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"1\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Hana Peters: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">I have nothing but wonderful things to say about them. Every time I went it was fast, which at a doctor's office is not always the case, right? It was clean, they were kind, they were empathetic, my doctor is fabulous, even my communication with ACRM. I can reach out to my doctor if I ever want to, like I'm not blocked or gatekept from my doctor, either, which I think is really important, especially when going through something as emotionally taxing and confusing as infertility.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"1\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Danielle Faith: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">She just had this way of doing things, which is incredible out of a doctor, she's talking about all these tests that we could do. If this fails, I don't know if I even have it in me to do another round of IVF, and my deductible is gonna start over. So, like, this has to happen now. So, she agreed with it, and we went through with that transfer, December 19, 2020, and that transfer resulted in my now two-year-old daughter.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Supportive partners:<\/span><\/b>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Jennifer Osmond:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> I give 99.9% of credit to my wife. She did all my scheduling, she organized all my shots, she did all my orders. I basically turned up to appointments. I was told when my shots were, and because she wanted to play such a big part of that, and she had spent so much time studying it, I let her lead on that.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Supportive employers:<\/span><\/b>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Jennifer Osmond:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> I\u2019m lucky that AT&amp;T does support that - it's definitely made me even more ride or die for the company, and the fact that they support you through it, and they even offer emotional support, physical support for you during this time too, it just, it just makes you see a company in a different light.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Lakia Holmes: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">If I had the opportunity to sit in front of whoever it is at Warner Brothers Discovery who said this is what we're offering our employees. I would just say thank you. Thank you so much, because I don't know if I'd be able to do it without Progyny benefits.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Becoming Advocates for Others<\/b><\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Hana Peters:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> I've been very vocal about it, and with that, have had the opportunity to have one-on-ones with women at my company that are going through the exact same thing, and I get to share with them how cool it is to have Progyny, what it means for them to have it and even just shed some color on what the IVF process looks like, \u201cOh, you're gonna give yourself hundreds of shots.\u201d \u201cYou're gonna feel like a doctor when you're done.\u201d So, I'm just very open about it, because people need to understand that they're not alone.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Danielle Faith:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> Making a Miracle is an organization that gives resources, emotional support, and we're working on the financial support now, but it's just an organization, unlike any other in the area that actually brings this community together. Makes you feel like there's somebody there.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<\/div>","episode_host_image":22660,"episode_host_title":"Dan Bulger, Producer at Progyny","episode_host_bio":"Dan has been in the healthcare industry for the past ten plus years as a multimedia content producer. Better known as \u2018Video Dan\u2019 he has interviewed numerous doctors, patients and other experts in the world of fertility. He\u2019s also the producer for this podcast, This is Infertility and the producer behind the<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/progyny\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-uw-rm-brl=\"exc\" aria-label=\"Progyny YouTube Channel - opens in new tab\" data-uw-rm-ext-link=\"na\">\u00a0Progyny YouTube Channel<\/a>\u00a0which features interviews with dozens of the nation\u2019s leading fertility specialists. On a personal note Dan\u2019s parents started fostering kids when he was four years old, and he considers himself a proud older brother to over 100 foster children.","episode_guest_1_image":25526,"episode_guest_1_title":"Lakia Holmes, Progyny Member","episode_guest_1_bio":"Lakia is senior producer at Warner Bros. Discovery Sports\u2019 Diversified Sports Content org, which focuses on storytelling around underrepresented voices in sports and culture. After delaying her dream of becoming a mom to focus on her career, she decided at the age of 37 that it was time to look into egg freezing. After learning her only chance at having a baby would be through IVF, she\u2019s decided to take the leap and start the journey of becoming a single mom by choice.\r\n\r\nWhile navigating the NYC dating scene, she now found herself navigating the world of infertility as a Black woman, the challenges of finding a Black sperm donor, and how the choice to become a SMC will impact her career.\r\n\r\nAs an award-winning journalist and producer, she\u2019s now on the other side, using her platform and personal experiences to tell her story to bring fertility awareness to the Black community.","episode_guest_2_image":26023,"episode_guest_2_title":"Danielle Zoll, Founder, Making a Miracle ","episode_guest_2_bio":"<span class=\"TextRun SCXW244553668 BCX8\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW244553668 BCX8\">Danielle Faith is an advocate for reproductive health and infertility. She is an Infertility Warrior who struggled with infertility for over 6 years; being diagnosed with Endometriosis, PCOS, and ovulatory dysfunction. Now she is mother to her amazing miracle baby, Makayla, and continues to uplift other women who are going through their own journey of Infertility. <\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW244553668 BCX8\">She understands the struggle of wanting to conceive and also feeling like giving up.<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW244553668 BCX8\"> Her coloring books, journals and other IVF themed books are meant to give others the hope and strength to feel like they are not alone in their battle towards motherhood. She has founded a non-profit called \u201cMaking a Miracle\u201d that encourages, supports, gives resources, and continues to give hope to those struggling with infertility no matter what part of their journey they are in.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"EOP SCXW244553668 BCX8\" data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>","episode_guest_3_image":26143,"episode_guest_3_title":"Hana Peters, Progyny Member at Salesforce","episode_guest_3_bio":"Hana, a proud member of the TTC community, struggled with and was diagnosed with unexplained infertility. She has undergone multiple rounds of IVF, has one healthy 2 year old boy thanks to her treatment, and another son on the way (also thanks to IVF). It was not until she gave birth to her first son that she was ultimately diagnosed with Endometriosis which felt like some answers to \u201cunexplained\u201d, finally. Hana is passionate about speaking up and being vocal about infertility in an effort to make those going through it not feel so alone. She refers to this community as \u2019the club no one wants to be a part of\u2019, but a club nonetheless. She knows all too well how it can feel as if everyone around you is getting pregnant, and just how isolating that can be. Hana is fortunate to have found a group of friends and co-workers who share her experience, and she credits her company for giving her the ability to grow her family. She wants those who are struggling with infertility to know you are not alone, and your rainbow is coming!","episode_guest_4_image":26467,"episode_guest_4_title":"Jennifer Osmond, Progyny Member at AT&T ","episode_guest_4_bio":"<span class=\"TextRun SCXW182043900 BCX8\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW182043900 BCX8\">Struggled with three failed IUI, referred to fertility clinic to find out I had endometriosis III. 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