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It was important for us to have options.\"","episode_intro_guest":"Joyelle Flemming","episode_intro_company":"Progyny Member at Genentech","episode_banner_section_intro_text":"This is Infertility is a bi-weekly podcast where we fuse narrative storytelling with experience and science to give you a new perspective on what it\u2019s really like to go through a family building journey. Each episode dives into the emotional, physical, and financial burdens carried by those who experience infertility on their path to parenthood. Be it IVF, IUI, egg freezing, surrogacy, adoption, etc., the path is never the same and it can be long, painful, and lonely. 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During her journey, Joyelle was faced with a difficult decision \u2013 what to do about her future fertility given the impact of cancer treatment. With the support of her doctors and access to fertility benefits through Progyny, Joyelle was able to freeze her eggs and focus on fighting cancer.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">In this episode, Joyelle reflects on her experience, from navigating fertility preservation to finding strength and support from loved ones and breast cancer advocacy groups. Her story highlights the power of proactive choices and the peace of mind they can provide in the face of life\u2019s toughest moments.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">To learn more about oncofertility, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/oncofertility\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">check out resources here.<\/span><\/a>\r\n\r\nBreast cancer resources mentioned in this episode:\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/imermanangels.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Imerman Angel\u2019s<\/span><\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thebreasties.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">The Breasties<\/span><\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"3\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/touchbbca.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Touch BBCA<\/span><\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"4\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hairandhope.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Hair & Hope<\/span><\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Guest: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Joyelle Flemming, Progyny Member at Genentech<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Host: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger, Progyny<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">For more information, visit Progyny\u2019s Podcast page and <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.progyny.com\/education\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Progyny\u2019s Education page<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> for more resources. Be sure to follow us on Instagram, @ThisisInfertilityPodcast and use the #ThisisInfertility. Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at <\/span><a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">This episode is also a video! Watch it here: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/p8N4nVJLOZs\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/p8N4nVJLOZs<\/span><\/a>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Preserving Her Fertility Prior to Cancer Treatment\r\n<\/b><\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">03:21 \u2013 05:21<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">I think at first, I was kind of numb. And then once reality hit in there was a lot of crying. It was really hard telling my parents about it, and then I had them kind of tell the news to the rest of my family. And then when I kind of like, got over the initial shock and grief, I was like, okay, what are we doing? What are the next steps.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">The priority for Joyelle and for her doctor was, of course, beating cancer, but she and her doctor also knew that it was important to protect her future fertility. Some cancer treatments can cause fertility challenges down the road, so it is a great option for young people who are about to go through treatment to freeze eggs, embryos, or sperm prior to treatment. They started an egg retrieval cycle, basically right away<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">I got diagnosed in January and then I started hormone treatments mid-February, so sometime in that month period my doctors asked, \u201cWell, are you interested in having kids? If you do want to have kids, it's probably good to freeze your eggs or embryos, just because we're unsure how the treatment will impact fertility.\u201d And I was just like, sure, I would love to have that option. We don't want kids right now, but we want them in the future, so this could be a future me problem.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Peace of Mind for Future Family Building<\/span>\r\n<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">06:47 \u2013 13:36<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">My husband and I chose to freeze embryos. You harvest the eggs. And then it's how many are mature? And then it's, how many end up getting fertilized? And then we did genetic testing on them, and so then we only ended up with three embryos, but they collected 19 eggs. It also made me nervous, because this was really my one shot at doing this. So, I was like, hopefully the odds are good in our favor that we end up with some embryos and not none.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Egg freezing is a process that takes a few weeks, and while a few weeks is not something that most of us think too much about. For someone who is just diagnosed with cancer, two-to-four-week delay in cancer treatment might be a bit scary. Fortunately, most fertility clinics are prepared to assist patients quickly when they are coming in for oncofertility purposes<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.<\/span>\u00a0<span data-contrast=\"auto\">Joyelle also has access to the Progyny benefit through her employer, Genentech.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">The retrieval itself went smoothly. I'm not concerned about having kids with my husband in the future, which is great, because I have enough things to worry about at this time. We can try naturally if we want to, but if we don't, we can just use the embryos. It's just one less thing to be worried about.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Breast Cancer Support\r\n<\/b><\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">14:37 \u2013 16:00<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">I have a few support groups that I've used:<\/span>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"4\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">The first one is <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Imerman Angels<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">. I have a buddy, and she's also a young Black woman who had breast cancer, so we'll just like text, and I text her a lot with any questions I have, and that's been great.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"4\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Then there's also <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">The Breasties<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u2019 app, which just has different channels, and I believe The Breasties is for breast and gynecological cancer. And that's been nice just to read people's posts and also ask questions. It was also helpful before my double mastectomy to see what were things that were helpful for people, and what were things that they thought they needed.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"4\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"3\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">And then there's also <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Touch, The Black Breast Cancer Alliance<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">, and it's been helpful. They have newsletters that they send out and they do events with different doctors and whatnot, typically talk about breast cancer for Black women.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"4\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"4\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Cold capping can be a couple grand, and I was able to get that covered through a group called <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Hair & Hope<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> in Chicago. So, they covered my cold capping, which was great, because I was definitely concerned with losing my hair, and I didn't, which is really nice.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">I found those few groups have been really helpful just to connect with other women who have been where I am or are actively going through it. And then I really relied on my friends, my husband, and my family. My friends have been so supportive, and it's also helped me being open, just like celebrating the wins, I threw myself an end of chemo party, and that was, that was so fun. And just knowing I can have these celebratory moments throughout all of this is so great.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<\/div>","episode_host_image":22677,"episode_host_title":"Dan Bulger, Producer at Progyny","episode_host_bio":"Dan has been in the healthcare industry for the past ten plus years as a multimedia content producer. 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