{"id":26428,"date":"2024-07-28T08:30:20","date_gmt":"2024-07-28T08:30:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/?post_type=podcast&p=26428"},"modified":"2024-07-29T13:50:19","modified_gmt":"2024-07-29T13:50:19","slug":"episode-188","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-188\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 188: Fertility 101: Egg Donation: Transparency for the Intended Parent and Donor"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"template":"","categories":[244,230],"tags":[559,529,431],"class_list":["post-26428","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","hentry","category-fertility-101","category-education","tag-donor-conception","tag-donor-egg","tag-egg-donation"],"yoast_head":"\nEpisode 188: Fertility 101: Egg Donation: Transparency for the Intended Parent and Donor | Progyny<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"In this episode, we dive into the detailed process of egg donation and its profound implications for 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want to remain open to listening to the needs of the donor conceived community, they should have a seat at the table.","episode_intro_guest":"Aisha Lewis","episode_intro_company":"Everie","episode_banner_section_intro_text":"This is Infertility is a bi-weekly podcast where we fuse narrative storytelling with experience and science to give you a new perspective on what it\u2019s really like to go through a family building journey. 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Be sure to follow us on Instagram, @ThisisInfertilityPodcast and use the #ThisisInfertility. Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at <\/span><a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">This episode is also a video! <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/_Wh0UdTfnrU\">Watch it here<\/a><\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Anonymity\r\n<\/b><\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">01:00 \u2013 02:20<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Aisha Lewis: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">What we are asking of our donors is for them to be forward thinking about what they're doing and the donation process.<\/span>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">So, they can choose to be known, which means they will meet the intended parents and exchange identifying information with the intended parents.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Semi known, which means they can meet the intended parents. But at that point in time of the of the meeting, they might not necessarily exchange identifying information and have an ongoing relationship.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"3\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Or ID release, which means they agree at some point in the future, that their identifying information will be given to the donor conceived when the donor conceived requests it.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">So, they have a choice in all of that. And our donors are also given the choice in which IPs (intended parents) get to utilize their eggs, we have something called neutral matching, where the donors see a profile of the intended parents as well as, the IP seeing a profile of the donor. We feel like this really lends transparency to the process. And ultimately, you know, really gets the buy in from the donor because a donation is not a transaction, right? There's a lifelong implication of the donor having to give updated medical information about herself and her family, things that she will only learn as she ages, back to the donor conceived.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Testing\r\n<\/b><\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">06:27 \u2013 08:20<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Aisha Lewis: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">It's important to know what the process is in screening the egg donor. Almost every donor has a pretty intense application process that they have to go through. So, it's about a two-to-three-hour application process. This is true for almost every donor program across the nation, we've got to gather a lot of facts. Once we get that information and the general criteria are met like age and BMI, there's nothing obvious that would rule the donor out in terms of the FDA, etc. We connect with the donor to have a one-on-one and answer questions.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">We currently use a product called engaged MD, to really have the donor understand all that's going to be happening throughout the process. From there, we do some preliminary testing.<\/span>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Anti-M\u00fcllerian hormone or AMH is a big driver in the egg donor world. So, we're checking the AMH levels of the donor.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">We're getting her genetic carrier screening performed.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"3\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">And then finally, we have the donor meet with a genetic counselor. We have to meet with a genetic counselor to collect three generations of the family medical history, and to discuss what genetic carrier screening means for the donor and her own health.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"4\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">From there, if everything looks good, the donor meets with a psychologist and has a psychological assessment, known as the personality assessment inventory (PAI), performed.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"\uf0b7","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"5\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">If that looks good, then we continue to the medical screening side of things where we do what the physicians ask us to do in terms of their testing before they cycle the donor.<\/span><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Legality\r\n<\/b><\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">10:09 \u2013 10:41<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Dan Bulger: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Another thing to keep in mind is all the legal considerations. And that's where agencies and programs like this can really help.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Aisha Lewis: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">We do have attorneys on the North Star staff that have been very well versed in navigating, you know, parentage issues with intended parents and donors throughout the United States. And so, you know, donors, they do give up the rights of parentage when they're doing the donation. But for some groups, it might be still advantageous to have a legal agreement with the donor themselves.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>With Everie\r\n<\/b><\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">12:18 \u2013 13:17<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Dan Bulger:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> The donor process can be intimidating. But with services like Everie, the process can actually be pretty smooth. 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And try to be forward thinking, try to think about what life is going to be like 5,10 or 15 years from now, and how you can support your child if they've got questions because we really believe everyone has the right to know their origin.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<\/div>","episode_host_image":22662,"episode_host_title":"Dan Bulger, Producer at Progyny","episode_host_bio":"Dan has been in the healthcare industry for the past ten plus years as a multimedia content producer. Better known as \u2018Video Dan\u2019 he has interviewed numerous doctors, patients and other experts in the world of fertility. 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