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Each episode dives into the emotional, physical, and financial burdens carried by those who experience infertility on their path to parenthood. Be it IVF, IUI, egg freezing, surrogacy, adoption, etc., the path is never the same and it can be long, painful, and lonely. It\u2019s our mission to give those struggling a platform to be heard, a community connection, and an opportunity to raise awareness of the 1 in 6 who, for many reasons, struggle with infertility.","episode_page_title":"Episode 157: A Teacher\u2019s Quest to Parenthood","episode_embed_code":"<iframe style=\"border: none;\" title=\"Embed Player\" src=\"https:\/\/play.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/26641050\/height\/128\/theme\/modern\/size\/standard\/thumbnail\/yes\/custom-color\/ffffff\/time-start\/00:00:00\/playlist-height\/200\/direction\/backward\/download\/yes\/stats-code\/landing157\" width=\"100%\" height=\"128\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>","episode_details":"<span data-contrast=\"none\">We always talk about enacting change on this podcast and that\u2019s exactly what today\u2019s guest did when she felt her journey was at a halt. In honor of National Teacher\u2019s Appreciation Week, meet Tara Stark, a teacher, who shares her experience after being diagnosed with <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/ovarian-reserve\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">diminished ovarian reserve<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">, faced multiple failed rounds of <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/ivf-facts\/what-is-ivf\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">IVF<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">, and a pregnancy loss. Tara was frustrated and knew she needed a change. She also needed financial support to afford these treatments. So that\u2019s exactly what Tara did. She sought out a school district with the kind of benefits she saw necessary for an employer to provide, access to a family building benefit.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">In this episode, hear why Tara joined Tennessee Fertility Advocates, where she found support, and how she <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/blog\/fertility-in-the-workplace\/tips-to-advocate-for-family-building-benefits-at-your-organization\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">advocated for herself<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> for herself and for family building benefits.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">This is Progyny\u2019s first video podcast. This episode is available for listening and watching. Find this episode, future video podcasts, and education content on Progyny\u2019s <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/c\/Progyny\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">YouTube<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Guest: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tara Stark, Teacher at Metropolitan Nashville Public Schools, and Progyny Member<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Host: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger, Progyny<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">For more information, visit Progyny\u2019s Podcast page and <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.progyny.com\/education\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Progyny\u2019s Education page<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> for more resources. Be sure to follow us on Instagram, @ThisisInfertilityPodcast and use the #ThisisInfertility. Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at <\/span><a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%; height: 0; overflow: hidden;\"><iframe style=\"position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_V6hry5dzSs\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div>\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Here are some highlights from this episode:<\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>An Expensive Diagnosis<\/b><\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">01:24 - 04:35<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Tara Stark: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">I was trying for five months when I went to seek fertility help. I just had a gut feeling that something was off, and I was 34 years old. So, approaching that age, I just wanted to get in and get the ball rolling. I had an AMH of point .2, which is considered to be low. We later, in ultrasound, confirmed that I had diminished ovarian reserve, which is a very, very low egg count. I had been doing a lot of research and joined support groups. And I was learning a lot on my own. We requested an IVF consultation and those doctors confirmed that they thought with my age and with my diagnosis, I should begin treatments for IVF. The doctor said that because of having DOR, I would need to plan on having several retrievals. She told us to plan on spending at least $50,000 out of pocket because I did not have fertility coverage. And that just sent me into a spiral. My husband and I were debating, \"are we going to do this? Are we going to spend this kind of money on something that isn't even a guarantee?\u201d<\/span><\/div>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Nothing Seems to Be Going Right<\/b><\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">04:56 \u2013 06:56<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Tara Stark: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">We started on the first day of school in August of 2021. My first round was canceled, because I had one dominant follicle growing. My second round of stims was canceled because I had no response. So, I started in August. I didn't actually have a successful retrieval until November of 2021. So, we got four mature eggs, two of them fertilized, and two of them became blastocyst. We transferred the first one in January of 2022. That failed. And that was crushing, because we worked so hard to get these embryos. And then we tried the second transfer in March of 2022, which did lead to a successful pregnancy but ended up being a missed miscarriage. We had previously seen the heartbeat; we had been told that the growth and the heartbeat looked great. Everything was perfect. We went in for our nine-week appointment. When the cinematographer was looking at the screen, her face went blank. And I just knew something was wrong. And then there was silence. And she said, \u201cI don't see a heartbeat.\u201d<\/span><\/div>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Changing Employers for Fertility Benefits<\/b><\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">07:40 \u2013 12:19<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Tara Stark: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">I was so angry that my school system didn't provide fertility coverage, because I knew that the county right next to us had amazing fertility coverage. I didn't even want to work for a company anymore that didn't have fertility benefits.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Dan Bulger: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">The lack of coverage means facing these challenges completely alone without support or funds. Tara decided to change jobs. Her new employer, Metro Nashville Public Schools had really great fertility coverage through a benefit called Progyny.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Tara Stark: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Since having Progyny, I've had three retrievals and only one has gotten us to a transfer. But I definitely would not have been able to do three retrievals without this insurance. Now, I'm doing what I know is going to protect my mental health, allowing time to grieve and leaning on my support system.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Becoming a Catalyst for Change<\/b><\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">13:58 \u2013 17:39<\/span>\r\n<div style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Dan Bulger: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Tara has taken some of her frustration and channeled it towards advocating for herself and for others who are going through the same thing, in a really remarkable way.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Tara Stark: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">I joined Tennessee Fertility Advocates in June of 2021. It was a really nice support system to have to know that other people are going through this platform to ask questions. Once I saw these other people, you know, going to their employers and asking for the benefits. I actually did the same. I emailed with the finance director and my county, I reached out to board members, talked to my admin representatives in the county. They were pretty honest in the fact that they wouldn't have the money to do it. They actually just added Progyny. I'd like to think my voice had an impact on that.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Dan Bulger: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">What's next for Tara? Well, at the time of this interview, she was gearing up for another retrieval round. And she and Brian have also started looking into another option as well.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Tara Stark: <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">We haven't made any type of decision. But my PCA gave me a list of egg banks that work with Progyny. And we've spoken with the counselor again, just to try and wrap our head around it. But the awesome thing is that I never wanted to look back and wish that I would have done more and having Progyny allows me to do that. 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