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While immediate success with treatment like IUI or IVF is ideal, sometimes a happy ending takes time.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In this episode, we hear from Hilary Patterson, a Progyny member with a diagnosis of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/ovarian-reserve-fsh-amh-afc\/\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/ovarian-reserve-fsh-amh-afc\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1657110153796000&amp;usg=AOvVaw36Bp8922k7yX9w0oKHrv_W\">diminished ovarian reserve<\/a>,\u00a0and hear how she persevered through her fertility challenges. Hilary\u2019s experience includes trying to conceive for a year, attempting\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/fertility-101\/iui\/\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/fertility-101\/iui\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1657110153796000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2vlcFi-d1fMyCE3t9s7Ws7\">IUI for six months<\/a>, and going through IVF as a last resort after learning she had the Progyny benefit. Her path to parenthood was surely not what she was expecting, but the journey was well worth the result.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Guest:<\/strong>\u00a0Hilary Patterson, Teacher, Infertility Advocate, and Progyny Member<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Host:<\/strong>\u00a0Dan Bulger<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For more information, visit Progyny\u2019s Podcast page and Progyny\u2019s Education page for more resources. Be sure to follow us on Instagram, @ThisisInfertilityPodcast and use the #ThisisInfertility.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/a>.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Here are some highlights from this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong><u>The Beginning of a Long Road<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">04:01 - 04:19<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Hilary Patterson<\/strong>:\u00a0I had a low ovarian reserve and my husband had low morphology, but neither were technically reasons that we weren't getting pregnant. So, we decided to start off with the least restrictive, which would be IUI.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong><u>Some Fertility Treatments Aren\u2019t for Everyone<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">04:42 - 05:31<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Dan Bulger<\/strong>:\u00a0The fact is that in ideal circumstances IUI can bring 10-12% chance of success. And in situations like the one Hilary was in, the likelihood of success was even lower. But on the flip side, IUI is significantly cheaper than IVF and it's less invasive. So it's something many patients should consider.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Hilary Patterson<\/strong>:\u00a0So, the first one, I was like super excited and hopeful. And then when that didn't work, I went into the second one thinking, you know, it rarely happens the first time, it'll happen the second time for sure, and it didn't. But then by the third one, I was just kind of going through the motions. And when it wasn't happening by the fourth one, it was like, I was feeling hopeless our sperm count looked low. And each time I would only have one follicle. It got to the point where I didn't know what to do.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong><u>Access to the IVF Journey with Progyny<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">07:30 \u2013 10:27<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Hilary Patterson<\/strong>:\u00a0I remember, finally, once I realized we had the coverage and that it was a possibility. I remember feeling relieved, you know, like, this is it. They're going to do all the work for me, which was short-lived, because IVF is really stressful. But yeah, I was relieved. Definitely. I was hopeful again.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Dan Bulger<\/strong>:\u00a0Two retrieval cycles and two embryos. 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