{"id":22192,"date":"2021-05-10T06:00:53","date_gmt":"2021-05-10T10:00:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/?page_id=19923"},"modified":"2024-04-23T10:40:12","modified_gmt":"2024-04-23T10:40:12","slug":"episode-105","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 105: \u201cJust Relax\u201d and Other Harmful Advice"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"template":"","categories":[275,271],"tags":[236,219,413],"class_list":["post-22192","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-emotional-support-and-awareness","category-female-infertility","tag-emotional-support-and-awareness","tag-podcast","tag-stress"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Episode 105: \u201cJust Relax\u201d and Other Harmful Advice | Progyny<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Episode 105: \u201cJust Relax\u201d and Other Harmful Advice | Progyny\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Progyny\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Progyny\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2024-04-23T10:40:12+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Progyny-Logo-no-tag-Blue-1.png\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"925\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"300\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/png\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:site\" content=\"@Progyny\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/education\\\/podcast\\\/episode-105\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/education\\\/podcast\\\/episode-105\\\/\",\"name\":\"Episode 105: \u201cJust Relax\u201d and Other Harmful Advice | Progyny\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/#website\"},\"primaryImageOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/education\\\/podcast\\\/episode-105\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/education\\\/podcast\\\/episode-105\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"\",\"datePublished\":\"2021-05-10T10:00:53+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2024-04-23T10:40:12+00:00\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/education\\\/podcast\\\/episode-105\\\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/education\\\/podcast\\\/episode-105\\\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/education\\\/podcast\\\/episode-105\\\/#primaryimage\",\"url\":\"\",\"contentUrl\":\"\"},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/education\\\/podcast\\\/episode-105\\\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Podcasts\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/education\\\/podcast\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":3,\"name\":\"Podcast\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/education\\\/podcast\\\/podcast\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":4,\"name\":\"Episode 105: \u201cJust Relax\u201d and Other Harmful Advice\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/\",\"name\":\"Progyny\",\"description\":\"Smarter benefits for life&#039;s milestones\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/#organization\"},\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/#organization\",\"name\":\"Progyny\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/\",\"logo\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/08\\\/Progyny-Logo-no-tag-Blue-1.png\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2024\\\/08\\\/Progyny-Logo-no-tag-Blue-1.png\",\"width\":925,\"height\":300,\"caption\":\"Progyny\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/progyny.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\"},\"sameAs\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/www.facebook.com\\\/Progyny\\\/\",\"https:\\\/\\\/x.com\\\/Progyny\",\"https:\\\/\\\/www.instagram.com\\\/progynyinc\\\/\",\"https:\\\/\\\/www.linkedin.com\\\/company\\\/progyny\"]}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Episode 105: \u201cJust Relax\u201d and Other Harmful Advice | Progyny","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Episode 105: \u201cJust Relax\u201d and Other Harmful Advice | Progyny","og_url":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/","og_site_name":"Progyny","article_publisher":"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Progyny\/","article_modified_time":"2024-04-23T10:40:12+00:00","og_image":[{"width":925,"height":300,"url":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Progyny-Logo-no-tag-Blue-1.png","type":"image\/png"}],"twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_site":"@Progyny","schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/","url":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/","name":"Episode 105: \u201cJust Relax\u201d and Other Harmful Advice | Progyny","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/#website"},"primaryImageOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/#primaryimage"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"","datePublished":"2021-05-10T10:00:53+00:00","dateModified":"2024-04-23T10:40:12+00:00","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/"]}]},{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/#primaryimage","url":"","contentUrl":""},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/episode-105\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Podcasts","item":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":3,"name":"Podcast","item":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/podcast\/podcast\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":4,"name":"Episode 105: \u201cJust Relax\u201d and Other Harmful Advice"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/#website","url":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/","name":"Progyny","description":"Smarter benefits for life&#039;s milestones","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/#organization"},"potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/#organization","name":"Progyny","url":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Progyny-Logo-no-tag-Blue-1.png","contentUrl":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Progyny-Logo-no-tag-Blue-1.png","width":925,"height":300,"caption":"Progyny"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/"},"sameAs":["https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Progyny\/","https:\/\/x.com\/Progyny","https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/progynyinc\/","https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/company\/progyny"]}]}},"acf":{"episode_intro_quote":"I didn't get pregnant the month I just relaxed. In fact, it was a really stressful month for us.","episode_intro_guest":"","episode_intro_company":"","episode_banner_section_intro_text":"This is Infertility is a bi-weekly podcast where we fuse narrative storytelling with experience and science to give you a new perspective on what it\u2019s really like to go through a family building journey. Each episode dives into the emotional, physical, and financial burdens carried by those who experience infertility on their path to parenthood. Be it IVF, IUI, egg freezing, surrogacy, adoption, etc., the path is never the same and it can be long, painful, and lonely. It\u2019s our mission to give those struggling a platform to be heard, a community connection, and an opportunity to raise awareness of the 1 in 6 who, for many reasons, struggle with infertility.","episode_page_title":"Episode 105: \u201cJust Relax\u201d and Other Harmful Advice ","episode_embed_code":"<iframe style=\"border: none;\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/18836537\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/8f4b9b\/stats-code\/progynylandingpage-105\/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"90\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>","episode_details":"<span data-contrast=\"none\">Nothing makes you feel more deflated, angry, and misunderstood\u00a0than\u00a0when someone tells you to\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scarymommy.com\/stop-telling-women-trying-to-get-pregnant-to-just-relax\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u2018just relax.\u2019<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0This\u00a0reaction can be\u00a0expected\u00a0in\u00a0many situations, especially from someone who is struggling with building their family.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;134233118&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">In this episode,\u00a0Bethany Johnson\u00a0discusses her\u00a0experience with infertility and\u00a0how\u00a0women have\u00a0historically\u00a0been blamed for \"barrenness.\u201d\u00a0Over time, this blame has trickled down through generations, lingering in the language we use to discuss women\u2019s health and consistently\u00a0disregarding\u00a0how\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/blog\/blog\/what-you-need-to-know-male-infertility\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">male factor infertility<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0contributes\u00a030%\u00a0to 40% of the time.\u00a0Bethany\u00a0and her colleague, Margaret Quinlan,\u00a0took this historical context and applied it to the modern phrases and attitudes society has normalized surrounding a woman\u2019s life. They co-authored the\u00a0book,\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Youre-Doing-Wrong-Mothering-Expertise\/dp\/0813593794\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">You're\u00a0Doing it Wrong! Mothering, Media, and Medical Expertise<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">,\u00a0<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"none\">to educate others on the constant barraging of unsolicited advice the world seems\u00a0to dump on motherhood constantly.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;134233118&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">As Dr.\u00a0Georgia Witkin taught us\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/podcast\/episode-104\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">last episode<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">, there\u2019s way more to infertility than stress\u00a0management, exercise,\u00a0and\u00a0dieting.\u00a0Motherhood\u00a0isn't one size fits all either, so it\u2019s important to advocate for yourself and\u00a0continue on\u00a0the path that works for you.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;134233118&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Guest:\u00a0<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Bethany Johnson,\u00a0co-author of\u00a0<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">You're<\/span><\/i><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0Doing it Wrong! Mothering, Media, and Medical Expertise<\/span><\/i><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Host:\u00a0<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Want to read Bethany\u2019s book? Click\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Youre-Doing-Wrong-Mothering-Expertise\/dp\/0813593794\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">here<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">For more information, visit\u202fProgyny\u2019s\u202f<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.progyny.com\/podcast\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Podcast page<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and\u202f<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Progyny\u2019s Education page\u202f<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">for more resources.\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Be sure to follow us on Instagram,\u202f<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/thisisinfertilitypodcast\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">@ThisisInfertilityPodcast<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and use the\u202f#ThisisInfertility.\u202f\u202f\u202f\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at\u202f<\/span><a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Here are some highlights from this episode:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Just Relax?<\/b>\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">1:38\u00a0-\u00a03:27<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Bethany Johnson:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0By that time, we had been married three or four years, and I felt like we had some good time together, I had met some professional goals, and had sort of a plan laid out. So, it felt like the right time, and then nothing happened. This stuck out to me not because I was 30, but because,\u00a0historically, the women in my family get pregnant\u00a0really quickly\u00a0and\u00a0really easily. Whether or not they can maintain that pregnancy is a different story, but pregnancy happens easily.\u00a0So,\u00a0when we have been trying for about four or five months, I said,\u00a0\u2018you know what,\u00a0I'm just going to talk to my\u00a0OB,\u2019\u00a0who was so lovely.\u00a0I had had such a great relationship with her up until this point:\u00a0when she told me to\u00a0\u2018<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">just relax,\u2019<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0and that\u00a0it\u00a0would happen.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0That hurts, doesn't it? I'm sure if you're listening here, someone somewhere has told you that if you just relax, things will change. People say it about all sorts of things, and it's usually directed at women. Just relax and your pain will go away. Just relax and your work issues will sort themselves out. But the big one is the one Bethany heard, just relax and you'll get pregnant. It's annoying when people say just relax, and it can be hurtful. But when it's a doctor telling their patients that they should just\u00a0relax,\u00a0and they'll get pregnant. Well, that's when the harm is being done.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Bethany Johnson:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0She was not right\u00a0and that was not what worked.\u00a0But that was the very first time I heard that, and it certainly wasn't the last.\u00a0I understand that I'm part of 150+\u00a0year tradition of that type of care being provided for people who are in\u00a0need.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>The Impact of Infertility Assumptions<\/b><\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">16:22\u00a0-\u00a017:34<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Bethany Johnson:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0The assumption in the early 1800s has been, well, it was literally at the beginning that it was not possible for men to contribute to barrenness,\u00a0which\u00a0is what it would have been called at the time,\u00a0and later sterility,\u00a0and then later infertility.\u00a0Men were\u00a0seen as\u00a0virile,\u00a0and they were sort of the source of life, so it was always the woman's fault. And then men weren't even tested with any regularity until well into the 20th century. And when I was doing\u00a0Patient\u00a0Practitioner Communication Studies, under IRB, through UNC Charlotte, we were talking to people whose partners refused to even get tested.\u00a0So,\u00a0they could have had male factor infertility, but wouldn't have known and doctors didn't require it. But we know that male factor is the cause 30%\u00a0to 40% of the time, so it's\u00a0definitely worth\u00a0checking. But because we have this idea that women are the infertile ones, and if they would just relax, they would get pregnant, it\u00a0actually really\u00a0hurts the men and these heterosexual partnerships, because they deserve time and attention and care as well. And if we keep understanding infertility as a female problem, we're really neglecting the male patients in these partnerships.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>","episode_host_image":22617,"episode_host_title":"Dan Bulger, Producer at Progyny","episode_host_bio":"Dan has been in the healthcare industry for the last six years as a multimedia content producer. Better known as \u2018Video Dan\u2019 he as interviewed numerous doctors, patients and other experts in the world of fertility. He\u2019s also the producer for this podcast, This is Infertility. On a personal note Dan\u2019s parents started fostering kids when he was four years old, and he considers himself a proud older brother to over 100 foster children.","episode_guest_1_image":22618,"episode_guest_1_title":"Bethany Johnson,  co-author of You're Doing it Wrong! Mothering, Media, and Medical Expertise ","episode_guest_1_bio":"<span data-contrast=\"auto\">Bethany L. Johnson (MPhil, M.A.) is a doctoral student in the history of science, technology, and the environment at the University of South Carolina and a research affiliate faculty in the department of communication studies at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. She studies how science, medical technology, and public health discourses are framed and reproduced by institutions and individuals with structural power from the 19th century to the present; specifically, she studies epidemics and reproductive health. She has published in interdisciplinary journals such as\u00a0<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Health Communication<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,\u00a0<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Women &amp; Language<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,\u00a0<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Departures in Critical Qualitative Research<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,\u00a0<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Journal of Holistic Nursing<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">, and\u00a0<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Women's Reproductive Health<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.\u202f Her book, co-authored with Dr. Margaret M. Quinlan,\u00a0Y<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">ou\u2019re\u00a0Doing it Wrong! Mothering, Media, and Medical Expertise<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0is available now through Rutgers University Press.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>","episode_guest_2_image":"","episode_guest_2_title":"","episode_guest_2_bio":"","episode_guest_3_image":"","episode_guest_3_title":"","episode_guest_3_bio":"","episode_guest_4_image":"","episode_guest_4_title":"","episode_guest_4_bio":"","episode_guest_5_image":"","episode_guest_5_title":"","episode_guest_5_bio":"","episode_music_section_links":"<span data-contrast=\"none\">Artist:\u00a0Jahzzar<\/span>\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Track:\u00a0MainSquare<\/span>\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">URL:\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Track:\u00a0Fabonacci<\/span>\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">URL:\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/<\/span><\/a><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Artist:\u00a0Steve Combs<\/span>\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Track:\u00a0Symphony No 1 Il Truth<\/span>\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">URL:\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/<\/span><\/a><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast\/22192","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/podcast"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22192"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22192"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/progyny.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22192"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}