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Dr. Wael Salem of CCRM San Francisco joins us to help breakdown the most common questions and misconceptions when it comes to fertility preservation before undergoing cancer treatment.\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\"><strong>Guest:\u00a0<\/strong>Dr. Wael Salem, CCRM San Francisco<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\"><strong>Host:<\/strong> Dan Bulger<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">For more information, visit\u202fProgyny\u2019s\u202f<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.progyny.com\/podcast\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Podcast page<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and\u202f<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Progyny\u2019s Education page\u202f<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">for more resources.\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Be sure to follow us on Instagram,\u202f<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/thisisinfertilitypodcast\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">@ThisisInfertilityPodcast<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and use the\u202f#ThisisInfertility.\u202f\u202f\u202f\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at\u202f<\/span><a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Here are some highlights from this episode:<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>What is\u00a0Oncofertility?\r\n<\/strong><\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">1:39 \u2013\u00a02:38<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0What is\u00a0oncofertility?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Wael Salem:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0Oncofertility\u00a0is the general field that melds together healthcare professionals from oncology and fertility\u00a0in order to\u00a0help a patient navigate the possible impacts of cancer treatments and their cancer on their fertility. It\u2019s also\u00a0about thinking\u00a0a little step further. The overarching goal of\u00a0oncofertility\u00a0is to,\u00a0of course, treat the entirety of the patient to treat the patient holistically. More specifically, we're treating them beyond their cancer into their survivorship. Cancer shouldn't define anybody. It's a remarkably big life event. But the field of\u00a0oncofertility\u00a0is one that has been established to look at the survivorship portion of life and all the big events that follow cancer treatment, including building your family.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Oncofertility\u00a0Misconceptions\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/span>\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">14:12\u00a0\u2013 16:28<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\"><strong>Dan Bulger:\u00a0<\/strong>Oncofertility\u00a0is the marriage of two very complicated fields of medicine,\u00a0oncology,\u00a0and fertility. And this complexity, along with all the fear associated with cancer, has led to some dangerous misconceptions lingering out there. Well, we wanted to see if Dr. Salim could help clear the air.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\"><strong>Dr. Wael Salem:<\/strong> There are still many\u00a0misconceptions that\u00a0that linger out there.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">The first one is that this jeopardizes the care of one\u2019s cancer and it takes too long. Studies have all shown us that with our modern protocols, it does not take longer to do the fertility preservation compared to the standard route that it would take to get your\u00a0chemotherapy\u00a0or your treatment started.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">The second misconception is that it's unaffordable. 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