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for the Black and Brown community so we can have more assistance for them in the fertility industry.","episode_intro_guest":"","episode_intro_company":"","episode_banner_section_intro_text":"This is Infertility is a bi-weekly podcast where we fuse narrative storytelling with experience and science to give you a new perspective on what it\u2019s really like to go through a family building journey. Each episode dives into the emotional, physical, and financial burdens carried by those who experience infertility on their path to parenthood. Be it IVF, IUI, egg freezing, surrogacy, adoption, etc., the path is never the same and it can be long, painful, and lonely. It\u2019s our mission to give those struggling a platform to be heard, a community connection, and an opportunity to raise awareness of the 1 in 6 who, for many reasons, struggle with infertility.","episode_page_title":"Episode 113: Bringing Joy to Others: POV of a Gestational Surrogate and Egg Donor ","episode_embed_code":"<iframe style=\"border: none;\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/20059898\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/8f4b9b\/stats-code\/progynylandingpage-113\/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"90\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>","episode_details":"<span data-contrast=\"auto\">One thing always leads to another,\u00a0and in\u00a0Eloise\u2019s case,\u00a0her actions\u00a0illuminated a path of happiness and health for\u00a0one family after another.\u00a0Eloise Drain, founder of\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/familyinceptions.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Family Inceptions<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> and Reproductive Advocates for Multiethnic Professionals (RAMP), started by donating her kidney to her cousin, and eventually Eloise found herself as a <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/surrogacy-adoption\/what-is-gestational-surrogacy-how-does-it-work-with-dr-shahin-ghadir\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">gestational carrier<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0for many\u00a0grateful couples over the years.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">In this episode,\u00a0Eloise talks about the process of being an\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/surrogacy-adoption\/egg-donation-what-you-need-to-know\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">egg donor<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0and\u00a0gestational carrier, as well as\u00a0the ups and downs that come with it.\u00a0During her journey,\u00a0Eloise\u00a0noticed the discrepancies in\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/female-infertility\/fertility-and-maternal-health-in-the-black-community\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">healthcare\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">for women of color<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0when she was told that \u201cblack women don\u2019t have fertility issues.\u201d\u00a0This influenced\u00a0her\u00a0to create\u00a0Family Inceptions,\u00a0an\u00a0agency\u00a0that seeks out surrogates or egg donors\u00a0that\u00a0carefully\u00a0places\u00a0them with others who are\u00a0a perfect match for them,\u00a0as well as\u00a0RAMP,\u00a0an agency\u00a0designed to\u00a0prioritize\u00a0minorities in their family building journey.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">Guest: Eloise Drain, Family Inceptions, Reproductive Advocates for Multiethnic Professionals<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">Host: Dan Bulger<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">For more information, visit\u202fProgyny\u2019s\u202f<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.progyny.com\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Podcast page<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and\u202f<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Progyny\u2019s Education page\u202f<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">for more resources.\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Be sure to follow us on Instagram,\u202f<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/thisisinfertilitypodcast\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">@ThisisInfertilityPodcast<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and use the\u202f#ThisisInfertility.\u202f\u202f\u202f\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at\u202f<\/span><a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Here are some highlights from this episode:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Tackling the myth surrounding infertility:<\/b>\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">5:31 \u2013 6:02<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0The myth\u00a0is\u00a0black women don't experience infertility.\u00a0And you know what, let's go a little bit stronger than that;\u00a0the myth that black women don't experience infertility is simply not true. It's false. Black women,\u00a0White\u00a0women, Asian, Hispanic, all kinds of women can experience infertility. That's not enough\u00a0because in fact, all kinds of people can experience infertility. It's a male issue as well. There wasn't as much conversation about this in 1999. But hopefully now 20 plus years later, everyone understands this much better.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>The process of becoming an egg donor:<\/b>\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">8:52 \u2013 9:55<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Eloise Drain:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0For a woman to become an egg donor, she\u00a0must\u00a0be willing to go through a lot of different testing\u00a0and\u00a0hormone injections.\u00a0There are risks\u00a0being\u00a0the donor\u00a0and it\u2019s not as simple as\u00a0a\u00a0man going through and donating.\u00a0It\u2019s a big deal and\u00a0it's a long process.\u00a0When somebody decides to become an egg donor,\u00a0they are giving a part of their DNA to another human\u00a0being,\u00a0and they need to be comfortable with knowing that one day,\u00a0potentially,\u00a0there could be another human out there with the same DNA that they have.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>","episode_host_image":22652,"episode_host_title":"Dan Bulger, Producer at Progyny","episode_host_bio":"Dan has been in the healthcare industry for the last six years as a multimedia content producer. Better known as \u2018Video Dan\u2019 he as interviewed numerous doctors, patients and other experts in the world of fertility. He\u2019s also the producer for this podcast, This is Infertility. On a personal note Dan\u2019s parents started fostering kids when he was four years old, and he considers himself a proud older brother to over 100 foster children.","episode_guest_1_image":22653,"episode_guest_1_title":"Eloise Drain, Family Inceptions, Reproductive Association of Minority Professionals","episode_guest_1_bio":"<div>\r\n\r\n<span lang=\"EN\">Eloise Drane is the founder of Family Inceptions, a full-service surrogacy and egg donation agency, Surrogacy Roadmap, a course for intended parents completing independent surrogacy and the hostess of Fertility Caf\u00e9 Podcast. And recently she also launched RAMP \u2013 Reproductive Association of Minority Professionals.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span lang=\"EN\">She knows that compassion and grace are necessary ingredients for the delicate journey that egg donation and gestational surrogacy can be for all parties. <\/span>\r\n\r\n<span lang=\"EN\">Eloise\u2019s passion and unparalleled empathy blossomed from her own experience as an egg donor six times and a surrogate three times.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span lang=\"EN\">As a previous leader of several infertility support groups, Eloise understands the importance of empowerment and encouragement within the family creation process. <\/span>\r\n\r\n<span lang=\"EN\">Eloise earned a Master's in Business Administration from Keller Graduate School of Management.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span lang=\"EN\">When she isn\u2019t guiding others in making family legacies, Eloise can be found fostering the relationships in her own family. 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