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Each episode dives into the emotional, physical, and financial burdens carried by those who experience infertility on their path to parenthood. Be it IVF, IUI, egg freezing, surrogacy, adoption, etc., the path is never the same and it can be long, painful, and lonely. It\u2019s our mission to give those struggling a platform to be heard, a community connection, and an opportunity to raise awareness of the 1 in 6 who, for many reasons, struggle with infertility.","episode_page_title":"Episode 98: Fighting for Fertility Coverage: State Mandate in North Dakota","episode_embed_code":"<iframe style=\"border: none;\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/18381527\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/8f4b9b\/stats-code\/progynylandingpage-98\/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"90\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>","episode_details":"<span data-contrast=\"auto\">The cost of healthcare can be exorbitant, especially for fertility treatments. There are some incredible grants, funds, and forward-thinking employers that provide support for fertility and family building care, but\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">more and more states are starting to\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">mandate that\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">coverage be<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0offered<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0While this idea might seem expensive at first glance,\u202f<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/blog\/fertility-in-the-workplace\/make-the-case-bring-fertility-benefits-to-your-organization\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">providing fertility coverage<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u202fsaves everyone money, not to mention it lessens the stress of fertility treatment for those going through it. This National Infertility Awareness Week (NIAW), Progyny is hosting a six-part series featuring several experts who are fighting for fertility coverage.\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">This first episode f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">ocuses on\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tara Brandner,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">the founder of the non-profit,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/raisingeverlastinghope.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Everlasting Hope<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">, and\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">her\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">fight for fertility coverage in North Dakota.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;134233118&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Tara Brandner<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0knew\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">firsthand<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0what it was like to<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0struggle with infertility. Her experience involved an\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/female-infertility\/what-is-endometriosis\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">endometriosis<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0diagnosis,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">several\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/female-infertility\/types-miscarriage\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">miscarriages<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">three failed\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/fertility-101\/iui\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">IUI<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0cycles, and\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/ivf-facts\/what-is-ivf\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">IVF<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">Soon after giving birth, Tara reflected on her turbulent experience with fertility treatment<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">. She c<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">oncluded that people should not have to go through the financial and emotional stress that she did. Tara\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">decided to\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">use<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">her<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0expertise as a doctorate nurse practitioner and veteran fertility warrior to\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">form a non-profit<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">, Everlasting Hope,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">that would<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">provide community and resources\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">for infertility<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">The platform has grown significantly, and she has emerged as a force behind advocating for fertility coverage in her state.\u00a0 Here\u2019s Tara\u2019s story.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;134233118&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Guest:\u00a0<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tara Brandner<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">founder of Everlasting Hope<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Host:\u00a0<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">For more information on\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">Everlasting Hope,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">check out the<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/raisingeverlastinghope.org\/about-us\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">website<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">,\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/raisingeverlastinghope\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Instagram<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">, and\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/raisingeverlastinghope\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">See\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/resolve.org\/what-are-my-options\/insurance-coverage\/infertility-coverage-state\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">RESOLVE\u2019s website<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0for fertility advocacy resources in your state and Progyny\u2019s\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/talktohr\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Talk to HR page<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0for assistance in requesting coverage from your employer.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">For more information, visit\u202fProgyny\u2019s\u202f<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.progyny.com\/podcast\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Podcast page<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and\u202f<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Progyny\u2019s Education page\u202f<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">for more resources.\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Be sure to follow us on Instagram,\u202f<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/thisisinfertilitypodcast\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">@ThisisInfertilityPodcast<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and use the\u202f#ThisisInfertility.\u202f\u202f\u202f\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at\u202f<\/span><a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Here are some highlights from this episode:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>The Magical $20,000<\/b>\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">4:32<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">- 6:<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">45<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger<\/span><\/b><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">Anyone who has been through a journey that included as many different treatment attempts<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">as Tara<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0knows that the bills can really pile up. But\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">here's<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0the thing for the early part of that journey, Tara actually did have coverage for fertility treatment. And she knew it was somewhat rare, and\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">at first\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">it felt like a lot of coverage. She had\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">what's<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0called a limited dollar max benefit, which just means that you'll be reimbursed for a certain number of dollars for different types of treatment, and Tara had $20,000 worth of that kind of coverage. $20,000 seem like a lot of money. And in real terms, it is a lot of\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">money. But when it comes to fertility treatments and<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">healthcare in general<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0$20,000\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">doesn't<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0actually go all that far.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tara Brandner:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0In the beginning, I always refer to it as\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201ct<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">he magical $20,000.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201d<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0Little did I know how fast that would get eaten up, especially with the cost of medication. I guess I was naive in the beginning to what treatment could possibly be coming around the corner<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0such as IVF, and the impact and cost that would have.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">So,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0I did have the\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">$<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">20,000<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">h<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">owever, two years after we started treatment, my place\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">of\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">work switched insurance companies, and I lost that benefit. And lo and behold, there w<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">ere\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">several others in my small rural office going through this as well. And they lost that benefit, too.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">I think my place of work has switched insurance plans and companies three times in seven years<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">, so<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">you have it, you\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">don't<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0have it, you have it. I always say that the price of\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">bread\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and milk goes up, so does the price of your medical expenses<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0yet that\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">$<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">20,000 for anybody who has it across the country has never changed.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">I've<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0heard\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">$<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">5<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">000<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">$<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">10,000<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">$<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">20,000, you know, if there is\u00a0<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">any\u00a0<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"none\">coverage. So, after the completion of my treatment, we were still\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">$<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">25<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,000<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0to\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">#<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">30,000, I had to quit counting<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">. I rounded it to $<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">30,000 in debt above having that $20,000 coverage.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Talking to Insurance Companies<\/b><\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">19:17<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">-\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">20<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">:<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">47<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tara Brandner<\/span><\/b><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">If 2019 did anything, it taught me how to come back and what to do better next time. So naturally, I had formed this nonprofit, and part of what I did through Everlasting Hope was start working with insurance companies in the background early on. For about the last year,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">I've<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0had a monthly phone call that has turned into weekly with different departments with the two main insurance companies in North Dakota. And\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">it's<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0really educating them.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">O<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">ne of them\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">in particular\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">said<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">, \u2018<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">y<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">ou know what, Tara, thanks for bringing this forward. We had no idea\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">o<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">ur members needed this. We don't know what we don't know.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u2019<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0Whereas the other insurance company was trying to just say,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u2018<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">okay, we met with you.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u2019<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0And this<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">actually all<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0came from a close working relationship I had formed with the state insurance commissioner during the 2019 session<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">W<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">e have had several meetings with him\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">in regards to<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0how this mandate works, or what we can do here<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0some other avenues we could possibly take to change the coverage for infertility in North Dakota. I had met with him again, and he said,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u2018<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">you know what,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">let's<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0get you working with these insurance companies<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">.\u2019<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">A\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">huge asset to\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">the\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">work I was doing was by having a good close working relationship with our state insurance commissioner and his office<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">H<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">is team has been wonderful as well.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>","episode_host_image":22613,"episode_host_title":"Dan Bulger, Producer at Progyny","episode_host_bio":"Dan has been in the healthcare industry for the last six years as a multimedia content producer. Better known as \u2018Video Dan\u2019 he as interviewed numerous doctors, patients and other experts in the world of fertility. He\u2019s also the producer for this podcast, This is Infertility. On a personal note Dan\u2019s parents started fostering kids when he was four years old, and he considers himself a proud older brother to over 100 foster children.","episode_guest_1_image":22614,"episode_guest_1_title":"Tara Brandner, Founder of Everlasting Hope","episode_guest_1_bio":"<span class=\"TextRun BCX0 SCXW4089532\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"none\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun BCX0 SCXW4089532\">Tara works as a doctorate family nurse practitioner and fertility coach. After enduring a long road through infertility followed by a traumatic pregnancy, she turned her hurt into hope for others by forming the only infertility nonprofit in North Dakota and South Dakota. In 2019, Tara initiated grassroots efforts to mandate insurance coverage for infertility care and cancer preservation to the North Dakota State Legislation and is doing it again in 2021. Tara is passionate about supporting those diagnosed with infertility and empowering them to be their own advocates. 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