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Education about infertility is something that we can control.","episode_intro_guest":"Arielle Spiegel","episode_intro_company":"Cofertility ","episode_banner_section_intro_text":"This is Infertility is a bi-weekly podcast where we fuse narrative storytelling with experience and science to give you a new perspective on what it\u2019s really like to go through a family building journey. Each episode dives into the emotional, physical, and financial burdens carried by those who experience infertility on their path to parenthood. Be it IVF, IUI, egg freezing, surrogacy, adoption, etc., the path is never the same and it can be long, painful, and lonely. 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How is anyone supposed to find reliable information on a topic not discussed widely enough, like infertility?\r\n\r\nArielle Spiegel found herself lost among unsuccessful doctor\u2019s appointments and bogged down by research that didn\u2019t provide clear solutions. So, she decided to change that.\r\n\r\nOver the course of three <a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/female-infertility\/chemical-pregnancies\/#:~:text=What%20is%20a%20Chemical%20Pregnancy,have%20one%20without%20knowing%20it.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">chemical pregnancies<\/a>, a <a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/podcast\/episode-77\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Uterine Septum<\/a> removal, three <a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/fertility-101\/iui\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Intrauterine Insemination<\/a> cycles, two <a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/fertility-101\/what-is-ivf\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">In Vitro Fertilization<\/a> cycles, and a crushing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.psychologytoday.com\/us\/blog\/the-chronicles-infertility\/202010\/late-miscarriage-why-it-s-different-and-tips-coping\">miscarriage<\/a> before Mother's Day (among many other challenges), Arielle felt there must be some way in which she could use her knowledge and Type-A organization skills to help others who are looking for answers too. Thus, began Cofertility, which started as a resource for anyone to learn about treatment scenarios, cost breakdown, and funding opportunities for fertility treatment.\r\n\r\nTune in to hear Arielle\u2019s story as she walks us through every up and down that led her to help others while also finding some success for herself.\r\n\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Today, Cofertility has evolved into a human-centered fertility ecosystem, enabling <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">women to freeze their eggs for free when they donate half of the eggs to a family that otherwise can\u2019t conceive and providing support and education for everyone involved along the way.<\/span>\r\n\r\n<strong>Guests: <\/strong>Arielle Spiegel, co-founder and CMO of Cofertility\r\n\r\n<strong>Host: <\/strong>Dan Bulger\r\n\r\nGot fertility questions? Click <a href=\"https:\/\/cofertility.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a> to browse Cofertility for more resources and education.\r\n\r\nFor more information, visit\u00a0Progyny\u2019s\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.progyny.com\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Podcast page<\/a><u>\u00a0<\/u>and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Progyny\u2019s Education page\u00a0<\/a>for more resources.\r\n\r\nBe sure to follow us on Instagram,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/thisisinfertilitypodcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@ThisisInfertilityPodcast<\/a><u>\u00a0<\/u>and use the\u00a0#ThisisInfertility.\r\n\r\nHave a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/a><u>.<\/u>\r\n\r\n<strong>Here are some highlights from this episode:<\/strong>\r\n\r\n<strong><u>Initial Consultation:\r\n<\/u><\/strong>5:19-6:03:\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Dan Bulger: <\/strong>When a person decides to see a reproductive endocrinologist, one of the first things they want to do after having a brief conversation about their history and their goals, is what's called an initial consultation. The initial consultation includes a series of tests, and it can provide a ton of information. Sometimes the initial amount of testing reveals a problem, but other times this testing comes clear of any issues at all. When that happens, the diagnosis is called unexplained infertility. Well, Arielle, and her husband's tests all came back normal. So, the only known issue was the septum on her uterus. A uterine septum is a condition where the uterus has a wedge of extra tissue, called a septum, hanging from the top, which can make it difficult for an embryo to implant and grow.<\/p>\r\n<strong><u>What is Cofertility?:\r\n<\/u><\/strong>9:03-10:00\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Dan Bulger: <\/strong>What I think is so incredible about this story is that Arielle didn't start Cofertility after \u201cbeating infertility.\u201d She started the company while undergoing treatment. In fact, she was still undergoing treatment at the time we recorded this interview with her.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Arielle Spiegel: <\/strong>We aim to uncomplicate the fertility journey by providing every fertility question asked and answered. 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