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After 10\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">failed\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/fertility-101\/iui\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">IUIs<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">, they decided to move forward with\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/fertility-101\/what-is-ivf\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">IVF<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0bu<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">t weren\u2019t sure how they\u2019d be able to afford it. Fortunately, Jessica realized her employer offered the\u00a0Progyny\u00a0benefit and as soon as they were able to,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">they\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">put their next plan into motion.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">But as they moved forward with IVF,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/blog\/fertility-in-the-workplace\/progyny-update-covid-19\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">COVID-19<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0came into the picture and complicated things even furth<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">er<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0The Paces\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">discuss\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">the ups and downs of pre-motherhood,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">why they documented their journey on YouTube, and where they are today.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Guests<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">:\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Samantha<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0and Jessica<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0Pace,\u00a0Progyny\u00a0Members<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Host<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">:\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Dan Bulger<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">For more information visit\u202fProgyny\u2019s<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.progyny.com\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Podcast page<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/lgbtq-family-building\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Progyny\u2019s Education page\u202f<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">for more resources on\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">LGBTQ+ family building.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">You can follow along with Samantha and Jessica\u2019s pregnancy journey via their YouTube channel,\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/callusthepaces\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cCall Us The Paces\u201d.<\/span><\/a><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Be sure to follow us on Instagram,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/thisisinfertilitypodcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">@ThisisInfertilityPodcast<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and use the<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">#ThisisInfertility.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Here are some highlights from this episode:\u202f\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Starting with IUI<\/b><\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">2:41 \u2013\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">6:14<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger:\u00a0<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">There are a few options for same-sex couples, one of which being intrauterine insemination (IUI) where a donor sperm is placed inside the uterus. This is\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">relatively<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0inexpensive and a\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">simpler<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">procedure<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">, but the success rate can be\u00a0pretty low.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">For the Paces in early 2017, this was the best path\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">forward<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Jessica Pace:\u00a0<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">We knew we wanted to do IUI because it was the more affordable route and even though it was\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">straightforward<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">, the first round\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">didn't<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0work. We knew<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0there was a c<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">h<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">ance of that, so we tried not to get too negative, and vowed to keep going.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">So,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0they tried again. And again. And after three failed rounds of IUI, the Paces took a mental and financial breather.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Documenting Their Journey<\/b><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">7:04 \u20137:26<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0The Paces were recording their\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">experiences<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0from the beginning of their journey with the intention of publishing them all on YouTube once they got a positive\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">result<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Jessica Pace:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0After it wasn\u2019t working, we thought, well we have all these videos, like what are we going to do with them?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0In February of 2018, they decided to start releasing the videos and they found the response empowering.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Progyny\u00a0Opens the Door for IVF<\/b><\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">9:56 \u2013\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">10:35<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Jessica Pace:\u00a0<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Thankfully, by the time we were ready for IVF, I had been working for the employer that I am currently with now, and I learned about the\u00a0Progyny\u00a0benefit.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dan Bulger:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0Jessica\u2019s employer offers\u00a0Progyny\u00a0coverage to their employees.\u00a0Progyny\u00a0coverage doesn\u2019t require people to undergo any rounds of IUI before trying IVF. 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