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We hope by doing so we can do our small part to help change the conversation and enhance public understanding that infertility needs attention and to ensure others they aren\u2019t alone in this journey.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">Today, we catch up with Matt Mira and Doree\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Shaf<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">r<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">ir<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">, hosts of the hit podcast \u201c<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/eggcellentadventure.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Matt and\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">Doree\u2019s<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0Eggcel<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">l<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">ent Adventure\u201d,<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0and\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/podcast\/episode-11\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">guests of ours from season one<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">When we last spoke, Matt and Doree were in the midst of their f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">amily building\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">journey, one that included multiple rounds of\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/fertility-101\/what-is-ivf\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">IVF<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0and a\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/female-infertility\/chemical-pregnancies\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">chemical pregnancy<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">. A lot has changed since then (including the birth of a baby boy!), so we\u2019re checking in to see what\u2019s next for the couple.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\"><strong>Guests:<\/strong> <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Matt Mira and Doree\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Shafrir<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">hosts of Matt and\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Doree\u2019s<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0Eggcellent Adventure\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\"><strong>Host:<\/strong> Lissa Kline, LCSW, Vice President, Provider and Member Services, Progyny<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">Be sure to check out Matt and\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Doree\u2019s<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0previous episode \u2013\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/podcast\/episode-11\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Season 1, Episode 11<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">For more information visit\u202fProgyny\u2019s<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/..\/progyny.com\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Podcast page<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">,<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/eggcellentadventure.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Matt and\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">Doree\u2019s<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0Eggcellent Adventure<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0and<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/emotional-support-and-awareness\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Progyny\u2019s Education page<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">for more resources on emotional support and awareness.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;134233118&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Be sure to follow us on Instagram,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/thisisinfertilitypodcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">@<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">ThisisInfertilityPodcast<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and use the<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">#ThisisInfertility.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;134233118&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><a href=\"mailto:thisisinfertility@progyny.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">thisisinfertility@progyny.com<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;134233118&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Here are some highlights from this episode:\u202f\u202f<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>Not Accepting Defeat<\/b><b>\u00a0and Changing Course<\/b>\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">7:07<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u2013<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">9:02<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Matt Mira<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">:\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">It sort of was like a, a moment of utter defeat, and a realization that this might never work here.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">It<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0was costing a\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">lot<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0i<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">t was taking a lot of energy emotionally and physically on\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Dor<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">e<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">e\u2019<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">s<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0part because she's the one getting constantly injected with things<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Doree\u00a0<\/span><\/b><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Shafrir<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">: I think it was also emotionally draining for you.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Matt Mira:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0Yes, it absolutely was.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">We had, what we call in scriptwriting, a \u201ccome to Jesus moment\u201d, <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">where we said, what are we\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">actually doing<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">? What do we need to happen here?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Lissa Kline:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">That's a place that I think a lot of people get to at some point, when they're trying to have a baby. It's a place that feels like maybe there won't be a happy ending to the story, where the IVF sometimes thought of as a silver bullet hasn't worked, and time and money seem to be running out. But they weren't truly out of options at this point. Not yet. They were coming\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">off of<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0two rounds of IVF that yielded no chromosomally normal embryos. But they had one embryo in storage from an earlier round of IVF. And they had a plan in place to change clinics to a clinic in Colorado, if they needed to try for another egg retrieval. Switching to the Colorado clinic was something that they're hoping to avoid because\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">t<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">hey live in California.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><b>The News They Were Waiting For<\/b>\r\n<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">12:<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">27 \u2013\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">16:07<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Lissa Kline:<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">The positive beta with\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">really strong<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0numbers came as something of a surprise to Dor<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">ee<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">. And she called Matt to share the good news<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">So,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0the positive beta meant that Dor<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">ee<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0was pregnant. And as the pregnancy progressed, the couple came to the point where they needed to share the news with their listeners. They've built a large and dedicated audience that originally tuned in to listen to their experiences with infertility. And we asked if there was some trepidation that a pregnancy announcement on that kind of show may be difficult for some to hear.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Matt Mira<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">:\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">We really had to sort of, I mean, not tiptoe around it, but\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">wanted to be sensitive. We know what it\u2019s like to hear the news. You don\u2019t want t<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">o<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0begrudge\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">anybody,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0and you don\u2019t, but you do have a pang of jealousy and annoyance that it worked for someone else. Which is a horrible thing to say. But look, we\u2019re all humans. And we all want that thing.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>","episode_host_image":22504,"episode_host_title":"Lissa Kline, LCSW, VP of Member and Provider Services at Progyny ","episode_host_bio":"<span class=\"TextRun SCXW203505268 BCX0\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"none\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW203505268 BCX0\" data-wac-het=\"1\">Lissa oversees the Patient Care Advocates and the Provider Relations Team. She worked at Columbia University Medical Center for several years in the division of Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility. Involved in Patient Services and the Donor Egg Program, she loved working with patients while they underwent fertility treatment. Lissa graduated with a Master of Science in Social Work from Columbia University.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"EOP SCXW203505268 BCX0\" data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\" data-wac-het=\"1\">\u00a0<\/span>","episode_guest_1_image":22505,"episode_guest_1_title":"Matt Mira and Doree Shafrir, hosts of Matt & Doree\u2019s Eggcellent Adventure ","episode_guest_1_bio":"<span data-contrast=\"auto\">Matt has been doing podcasts almost since podcasts existed \u2013 he\u2019s a co-host on Nerdist, James Bonding, FEAB, and Talk Salad &amp; Scrambled Eggs, and has been a guest on more podcasts than he cares to remember. 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