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If the first step to having a baby for many is timed intercourse, how do you manage\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">this if<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0you\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">are in the military and<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0have no time for intercourse?\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">In today\u2019s episode, we\u2019ll hear from Staff Sergeant Helena\u00a0Giammarco\u00a0who plays the French Horn in the\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.music.af.mil\/Bands\/The-United-States-Air-Force-Band\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">United States Airforce\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">B<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and.<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Helena<\/span><span 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data-contrast=\"auto\">secondary infertility, as\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">you\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">are naturally older when you are<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">trying for a second child, the nature of Helena\u2019s work in the military\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">made it\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">increasingly more difficult.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Helena shares what it was like enduring multiple rounds of\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/fertility-101\/iui\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">IUI<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0and\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">dealing with the\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/emotional-support-and-awareness\/emotional-recovery-from-loss-how-to-move-forward\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">emotional trauma of multiple miscarriages<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0all while constantly being on the road for her job.\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">She also\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">depicts the challenge of having to travel back and forth\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">between states in order to receive\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/education\/ivf-facts\/what-is-ivf\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">IVF<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0treatment at a military clinic.\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"auto\">In this episode, w<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">e\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">learn a little about what it\u2019s like to\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">experience infertility<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0in the military<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">, and how organizations like\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.servicewomen.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Service Women\u2019s Action Network<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">(<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">SWAN<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">)<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">are advocating for<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">service women like Helena<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">both\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">past, present,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">and<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0future<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Guest<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">: Helena\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">Giammarco<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">, Staff Sergeant in the US Airforce<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Host<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"none\">:\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">Jasmine Villa, Patient Care Advocate at\u00a0Progyny<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">If you want\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">to hear more<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">, here are a few episodes we\u2019ve released<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0on infertility in the military<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">:<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/podcast\/episode-55\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Episode 55: Infertility in the Military: From Active Duty to Motherhood<\/span><\/a><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/podcast\/episode-56\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Episode 56: Infertility in the Military: IVF in the Field<\/span><\/a><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/progyny.com\/podcast\/episode-57\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Episode 57: Infertility in the Military: Specialized Care for Our Heroes<\/span><\/a><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">For more information, visit\u00a0Progyny\u2019s\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.progyny.com\/podcast\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Podcast page<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.servicewomen.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Service Women\u2019s Action Network<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Be sure to follow us on Instagram,\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/thisisinfertilitypodcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">@ThisisInfertilityPodcast<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">and use the\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">#ThisisInfertility.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span>\r\n\r\n<span data-contrast=\"none\">Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? 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